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Alright, alright, you've piqued my interest.
Instruments: Electronic Keyboard (which can sound half as good as virtually any other instrument)
Vocals: Mad Skillz in tenor and baritone. You wanna sample, you better ask reeeeally nicely.
Genre: Ironically, I prefer wordless music, strings, percussion and/or videogames. Or the kind that makes you laugh, such as Weird Al and Dr. Demento.
Programs: Ummm... Audacity?
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Patch: Wow, the singing actually works. I see what you mean by 'darker' side of things, and yet at the same time, you actually had tone! (which is more than I can do in the way of singing) Quite good indeed.
Your singing reminds me a bit of the vocals from Folk Implosion, which is cool.
Apparently you seem to be able to write lyrics too.
I like what I hear.
I'm definately interested in doing a collaborative project.
Although, I'm not sure where to start. Any suggestions?
Austin: Mad skills in singing? Most excellent. You should post a sample.
since you want to be asked reallly nicely: You should post a sample, please.
:p
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Bass Sample: "In Flanders Fields"
Tenor Sample: "Jurassic Park"
Sorry for sounding a bit breathy here, but I can't sing to my fullest (like I do for group concerts and such) at this moment because I am recording privately. you're welcome.
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Firstly before we get started, I need to know what all your programs support music wise... my main concern is time signature and tempo changes? Can both Audacity and Frooty Loops do those two things, (ACID can) or do we need to change-up some software as of yet?
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I thought you were talking file extensions until you mentioned Time and Tempo. Now it sounds like you're trying to make professional-looking sheet music. Audacity is meant for recording, playing and editing raw sound - nothing about making it look pretty.
Audacity can read and export OGG, WAV and MP3. Beyond that, I'm clueless.
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I'm wondering about sync for the (currently) three of us... Say that there's a time and/or tempo change in the middle of the project.... no one wants to split the file at the transition, do they? No, they definitely don't.
So, basically, if I tell you that there's a tempo change to 180bpm at the 50th measure, you won't have to be doing guesswork to sync all of your additions with mine... like if you're trying to add a synthy line that the computer's playing to the song's tempo. It's so you can syncronize your loops with mine without lots of hassle. :-\ Do I need to go into more detail?
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I get what you're saying. I have a metronome, and my electronic keyboard can count measures for me, and I can keep a pretty good beat... but if that isn't enough, I can try to get a copy of something at my school called Finale 2000... that may not be the exact name. It handles time, tempo, key changes, synthesized backup, making pretty sheet music... the works.
No guarantees, though.
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Ok.
Finale 2000 - I have used that before.
It is good if you are *used* to conventional musical notation and if you are doing things with reletively conventional instruments.
As for it's production ability: It can export MIDI's which can then be imported into a VSTI host (like Fruity Loops) and played through a real soft-synth.
As for direct record from Finale: Probably not a good idea.
Finale's only decent instrument reproduction is the piano, and even that sounds MIDI-esque. I would use it only for composition, review and output to a better quality device/program/synth. Or as a guide for printing music for performance on a real instrument or singing or whatever.
BTW, the synthesized back-up in Finale sounds really thin to me, but that's becuase it is intended for preview use. Basically to get the notes right.
And from my experience with electronic music and music in general, *thin* is exactly the kind of sound one should try to avoid expecially in synthesizers. Or else everything will sound like an early-nineties K-Mart keyboard demo :p
I don't think I even know *how* to make stuff sound like that anymore.
Time signatures: Fruity loops is rigidly concrete about this. You can't change time signature within a song with fruity loops alone you have to pick one and stick to it the whole way through. Tempo is the same way.
I suggest we should make time signatures easy for everyone. 4/4 is what most music is done in (except for maybe jazz).
As for keys, I can work in almost any key. As long as it is *a* key. FL can adjust pitch, but I've found that it helps that if something is a few cents off key, it is the exact same amount off key for EVERY note. That way, I can make it sound *not* off key.
Also we need to talk aesthetics. Everyone has a style that they are particularly good at. And there is almost always a way in music to make the best of each style that is composited together to make something.
From what I gather: Patch, your music reminds me a lot of the band Folk Implosion (Alternative, down-tempo/early trip-hopish). But that was based only on that one example you posted up here.
Austin, you seem to be able to carry a melody on a good mid-range register (tenor). Which is good because mid-range vocals are important. I'm not sure what particular singing style you are more accustomed to or most comfortable in though.
And my specialty is trance, space and industrial synthesizer leads and sound beds and beats. I can't sing. I can *try* to write lyrics, but I'm not very good at making them match up with a beat. The whole poetic beat timing thing escapes me.
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Ok, well I've kinda started.
I threw this together today, it's not really very refined yet (and thus far it kinda sounds more like two seperate songs glued together)
Go here:
My music site
and listen to 'TRC-HS DEMO' (should be the first one on the list)
it is streamable in hi and low quality.
(It is just a demo render I tossed together from FL3.4 earlier today)
Maybe there is something someone can add to it? Vocals? An accoustic instrument? (I know it's missing a lot as is. It's missing a few layers of instruments)
I know, it's missing swells and the build-ups are still rudimentary for sure.
It's only 1 minute 20 seconds right now. If someone wants to add a layer to it, I *do* have the orginal loop file for it. But the loop file is still only 1:20 too :p
For reference: the tempo is 140 bpm. The time sig is 4:4
The key is: D (major probably)
What do you think?
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"There will one day spring from the brain of science a machine or force so fearful in it's potentialities, so absolutely terifying, that even man, the fighter, who would dare torture and death in order to inflict torture and death, will be appaled, and so abandon war forever."
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Okay -- I just listened to it and am listening again as I type. You seem to have percussion down pretty well, therefore making it a lot less 'unfinished' than I expected. I think that this one could swing either way for mood: either a hard trance feel or an up-tempo industrial feel. I'm leaning towards the former, mostly for sake of getting a feel for everyone's musical tastes before we start delving into the deep jungle of lyrical preference.
I think that we could add some intensity to this by adding heavier and more complex drums, (although of course leaving the original stuff in.) Some crescendos and some swells and maybe some less computer-generated-sounding noises would increase overall dynamic value too.
I'm busy this weekend, but I might try to bring my computer along with me, we'll see. If not, I will have some free time next week.
Austin?
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